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    Question Unexpectedly high normal stress -beam bending.

    Hello,
    I would like to ask You a question about the difference in results between Euler-Bernoulli method of analysis of stress in short slender beam and 3D FEA method mentioned in ansys aim tutorial here: https://confluence.cornell.edu/pages...geId=336368294
    The problem looks like 1dimensional:
    beam P=force.PNG
    it is short slender simple beam, where P is a force 1000lbf applied in -y direction

    beamaa.PNG

    The Result of simgaX after hand calculation (850psi) using Bernoullis model is two times smaller than result obtained using FEA in ANSYS (1800psi).
    Hands calculation: sigma max hand calc.PNG
    sig_max.PNG - this was used to calculate sigmaX = Eulers Bernoulli theory



    In this tutorial (https://confluence.cornell.edu/pages...geId=336368294) It is mentioned that "substantial out-of-plane stresses (sigmaZ, simgaY) result in Poisson effects on the normal wall stress (sigmaX), increasing its value substantially".
    I understand that sigmaZ (710psi according to ansys) is due to the fixation of this beam however sigmaZ is positive = its tensile. simgaX is also tensile so sigmaX should be REDUCED according to Poisson effect. And according to ANSYS it really is because overall equivalent stress (1400psi) is actually smaller than sigmaX (1800psi). (Its due to the fact that all stresses are tensile ( i talk about point above neutral axis)
    But (still much higher than simgaX of Bernoulli).
    https://ctrlv.cz/F1mf - this is picture which illustrates directions of stresses.
    So the big difference in simgaX between Euler-Bernoulli (sigmaX=850) and 3D FEA ANSYS method (sigmaX=1800psi) can not be caused by out of plane stress.

    I would like to ask, why is real value of sigmaX almost two times higher than it is according to Euler-Bernoulli beam theory?
    Is it due to the fact, that beam is short and has it sth to do with shear stress?
    What theory can be used to calculate analytically more accurately the value of sigmaX (i mean value close to the reality) ?
    I know that simgaZ is zero according to euler and that it is not true, but it should decrease sigmaX and not increase it...
    It seems so simple, so please answer me.
    Last edited by robert_cibula; 08-24-2018 at 03:16 PM. Reason: double picture

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