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Posted by: spyderman ® 11/04/2008, 14:28:57 Author Profile eMail author Edit |
Could somebody please help me? I work for a company called MIL-SIM-FX, we design non-pyro training IED's for the U.S. Military. And I have a schrader valve on the end of the C02 canister. The piston on the backside of the valve is .5". I know the surface area of the piston is 0.1963 sq/in. And the canister is pressurized to 1800 PSI. How do I calculate the amount of PSI that is on the piston and the force needed to overcome the pressure in the canister?
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Posted by: whang ® 11/04/2008, 15:34:50 Author Profile eMail author Edit |
Pressure=Force/Area If the pressure in the Canister is 1800 psi So the pressure on the piston is 1800 psi the force on the piston = pressure X area = .1963 X 1800 psi
You need the force is bigger than 353.34 lb to open the valve Hope this will help you. |
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Posted by: spyderman ® 11/04/2008, 16:00:06 Author Profile eMail author Edit |
Thanks so much for your reply, That was the #'s I came up with but they did not make sense. The pin that opens the Schrader valve is attached to a piston that has a surface area of 3.9449" and is actuated with an air pig set at 100psi. Each firing depletes the tank by 10psi. Yet it is still functional at only 30psi in the tank? Would that not mean the actuation piston is only using 118.347psi to overcome the 353.34 pounds of resistance??? Thanks again! |
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Posted by: whang ® 11/04/2008, 17:18:40 Author Profile eMail author Edit |
The piston area is 3.9449 sq.in the pressure is 100 psi the force is 3.9449 x 100 psi =394.49lb so the force is overcome the 353.34lb
Can you give me more detail about the air pig and how it works? |
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Posted by: randykimball ® 11/04/2008, 17:10:30 Author Profile eMail author Edit |
(3.9449 X pi) x 30 psi = 371.8, .. enough The worst suggestion of your lifetime may be the catalyst to the grandest idea of the century, never let suggestions go unsaid nor fail to listen to them. |
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Posted by: spyderman ® 11/05/2008, 07:38:38 Author Profile eMail author Edit |
I am not sure why the replies have given me to different #'s? As for the air pig, it is just a small accumulator with a static preload of 100-105PSI, and a solenoid opens and the Initiation pistion is forced into the Schrader valve forcing a full expulsion of the CO2 canister
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Posted by: whang ® 11/05/2008, 09:44:47 Author Profile eMail author Edit |
Thanks for your information. Every time you open the Valve, you need to recharge the accumulator to 100-105 psi. the tank is to hold air only
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