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Posted by: brendanmenezes

07/06/2005, 01:57:39

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Dear Sir,
I am having the following problem there are two sentances given below of which sentance two is causing me grief basically in sentance two the writer included the word "related" has he screwed up the sentance by doing so as i think he is talking about mechanical aspects but puts the mecahnical "related" aspects instead has he made an error
sentance number one: >
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>"mechanical aspects of design" and not "mecahnical related aspect of design"
>as in sentance number two below"
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>sentance number two: >
>"They are the designers and builders of the mechanical, thermal and
>fluid-flow related aspects of all such systems, including computer and
>feedback control of complex systems."
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>looking forward to your reply
regards brendan






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Posted by: randykimball
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07/31/2005, 08:39:49

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May I suggest you seek out a forum at an English grammar web site for your "aspects" usage. We as engineers aren't known for our skills in grammar, (in fact quite the opposite). However, those at an English grammar forum would be perfectly suited to both better explain and better understand your questions in this matter.

This is not to say that your questions are not welcome here too, they are absolutely welcome. Please continue to ask questions.

However I do suggest that you will find a definitive answer in a forum established to answer questions of an English grammar content.

Good luck, I hope this helps.

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Posted by: swearingen

07/06/2005, 06:38:16

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I think there is a slight difference. Let me illustrate:

If you were to work on all of the "mechanical aspects" of an engine, you'd work on the pistons, crankshaft, valves, etc.

If you were to work on all of the "mechanical related aspects" of an engine, you'd work on the above plus the engine management computer, engine block and structure, fuel mixture, etc.

The first sentence in my example deals with only mechanical items. The second deals with electrical, structural and chemical items, but they are "related" to the mechanical system.

Do you see the difference?







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Posted by: brendanmenezes

11/20/2005, 21:18:09

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dear Sir,
"you'd work on the above"
plus the engine management computer, engine block and structure, fuel mixture, etc.

Sir can you please explain how you get to the above hyphenated sentance.
THank you
BRendan Menezes







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Posted by: brendanmenezes

11/20/2005, 21:30:12

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oops i made a mistake i meants to say Sir can you please explain how you get to the above sentance in quotes.and not how do you get the above hyphenated sentance THank you BRendan Menezes






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Posted by: brendanmenezes

07/08/2005, 10:47:36

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Dear Sir,
Thank you fro your reply,
So your saying the writer hasnt intended to mean mecahnical aspects and put mecahnical related aspects by mistake your saying he has put mecahnical related aspects as he has intented for a wider coverage i.e electrical , structural and chemical aspects as well as mecahnical .
Lookng forward to your reply and thank you for your reply.
Brendan Menezes






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Posted by: brendanmenezes

07/31/2005, 07:48:58

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Dear Sir,
In response to your email I cant see how "mechanical related aspects" includes "mechanical aspects" as well as "mechanical related aspects",surely it should only include "mechanical related aspects"

Your sentance was
"If you were to work on all of the "mechanical related aspects" of an engine, you'd work on the above plus the engine management computer, engine block and structure, fuel mixture, etc."

please help me understand this confusion looking forward to hearing from you
regrads
brendan menezes B.Eng Chemical Engineering







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Posted by: swearingen

08/01/2005, 11:12:03

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Bottom line:

Although the sentence given may not be the clearest way to present the thought, in English, the words "related aspects" apply to each and every one of the preceding objects of the preposition "of".

The cumbersome way to write this sentence would be:

They are the designers and builders of the mechanical related aspects, thermal related aspects and fluid-flow related aspects of all such systems, including computer and feedback control of complex systems.

This is NOT the correct way to write this sentence. Any English teacher would delete the two preceding "related aspects" or simply reword the sentence. I'll try to reword it here:

They are the designers and builders of all related aspects of such complex systems including mechanical, thermal and fluid-flow issues, as well as computer and feedback control systems.

English, as with any language, has many nuances that can make it difficult to get very detailed messages across. A course in technical writing is recommended for ANY person in our business.







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Posted by: randykimball
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08/01/2005, 19:17:06

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Variations of your answer have been presented at least three times. It seems by his responses that this question has been ask about "aspect" usage on several web sites and the person asking the questions doesn't read the answers or doesn't like the answers.

Thank you for your response.

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