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Posted by: dimac

04/10/2006, 10:39:19

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Hello, Can somebody help me with design? I have an internal combustion engine, single cylinder, two strokes. It develops 8.8 N*m torque (80 lbf*in) at 6600 RPM. It mounted on 4 vibration isolators located symmetrically around the Center of Gravity (see attachment). The natural frequency of the system (without coupling connection) is about 37 Hz. Without coupling (gear not connected), the system works perfectly, the engine oscillates around the C.G. without significant movement of the shaft (in all X, Y, Z directions). When coupling connects the shaft to the gear, after few minutes of the work at the rated speed, the system is crashes, the coupling is breaks down, and pushes down the isolators. I think that under load, the engine increases its oscillations and the coupling can't curry these axial and/or radial and/or angular misalignments and crashes. May some other coupling solve this problem? Thanks

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Posted by: zekeman

04/11/2006, 00:29:01

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What kind coupling to the gear? And is the gear under any load?







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Posted by: dimac

04/11/2006, 02:46:47

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The coupling is R+W Elastomer EKL/10/B (http://www.rw-couplings(DOT)com). The gear is connected rigidly to the ground.

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Posted by: zekeman

04/11/2006, 14:42:18

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Do you reaally need an elastic coupling? I think this coupling plus the gear amplifies the vibration, As an experiment, try a loose nonelastic coupling just to check its behaviour. This may tell you how to proceed.







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Posted by: dimac

04/16/2006, 03:06:08

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I think nonelastic coupling will not absorb vibrations from the engine and they will pass to the gear. I try to prevent this.







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Posted by: rfox71

04/10/2006, 13:13:46

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If your not using an allignment coupling you will most likely experience serious mechanical failure (although how quickly Im not sure). Once coupled your system is essentially fixed at that point. This changes the dynamics of the system. It will now be reacting to moments and forces created about the coupling point. I think you might need to look at changing your damping setup (i.e. location and type)......

Ill look into it more when i get the time... Very interesting...

Robert








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Posted by: dimac

04/11/2006, 03:09:05

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You can see above the kind of the coupling. Basically it might permit some axial, radial and angular misalignment. It seems that the coupling cancels some degrees of freedom instead of dumping the vibration. The question is is there some other type coupling that can do this work?







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